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May 14, 2007

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Ben

I think this is a really fascinating subject given the current quagmire that is Iraq and which effects are no doubt emerging in the soldiers already returned or returning from the war. I also am intrigued by how different forms of training affect different types of soldiers. I am thinking here of the differences between combat soldiers and say, the government agents that torture or "interrogate" enemy combatants. Do these agents have the same sorts of reactions or engage in the same sorts of rationalizations that the combat soldiers you and Roger talk about in your paper do? Or is there even any type of the "Oh my God what have I done" association in these types of scenarios? I know that these are two very different types of produced subjects, but in hearing you talk in class about "waterboarding" and other torture techniques from the perspective of those being tortured, I would be interested to hear if you have any thoughts on those types of practices in terms of the types of training and potential associations going on with the torturer/soldier.

John Protevi

It's often claimed that many torturers themselves suffer from PTSD, which shows up in very high domestic violence rates, alcoholism and drug abuse, depression, and so on. I don't have any references to studies offhand, but I have seen this claimed in many places and it's certainly plausible. The question would be to what extent these conditions pre-existed the torturer's work so that the torture only made them worse. There's probably a self-selection / intensification loop going on here. If I find any studies, I'll let you know.

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