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July 28, 2010

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Mandel Cabrera

I enjoyed what I read of Ratcliffe's book. It seems too strong to say that we *never* infer a person's mental state 'based on evidence presented to our senses of their outward behavior.' I take this to be the claim that we never infer a person's mental state from experiences of someone's behavior which present that behavior in ways which are so to speak *psychology-free*.

I take Ratcliffe to be arguing that we don't *usually* get onto a person's mental state in this inferential way. As the phenomenologists who have influenced Ratcliffe on these matters (e.g. Sartre or Merleau-Ponty) insightfully pointed out: we usually just directly perceive a cry of pain as a cry of pain, rather than first perceiving a mere physical sound and then inferring that it is a sign of an internal mental state (viz, pain).

I'm not sure Ratcliffe means to be saying we never infer mental states from percetions of merely physical phenomena. And even if he did, it wouldn't be too plausible.

My thought is this: as Heidegger is careful to point out, when circumstances are unusual, things sometimes show up as Vorhanden rather than Zuhanden. Usually, I just directly perceive your cry of pain as a cry of pain. For example, I can see your hand snap back from the rain-soaked stone and hear a loud noise come from your mouth. I can then need to *infer* that you are in pain from a burning sensation. Circumstances are unusual - rain-soaked stones are not usually hot, and I'm aware of no intense heat source in the vicinity. And so, I see a mere physical movement and hear a mere loud sound. Your cry, in other words, shows up as Vorhanden. And thus I must step back and consider for a moment the circumstances before I finally conclude that the noise you made was a cry of pain that is a sign of your being in pain.

These are minor quibbles, though. Ratcliffe is absolutely right that much so-called 'folk psychology' is a philosophical myth. The insights he brings to bear on these matters, I think, is ripe for a fruitful dialogue between phenomenology and contemporary analytic philosophy of action, since Wittgenstein and especially Elizabeth Anscombe have views on the epistemology of action behavior very much like the ones advocated by phenomenologists like Sartre and Merleau-Ponty.

Mandel Cabrera

Oops: there was a badly misleading bit in that last post. I didn't mean to suggest that directly perceiving a cry of pain as a cry of pain would be counter by Heidegger as a case of something's showing up as Zuhanden. I only meant to suggest that something's showing up as 'merely physical' would be counted by Heidegger as its showing up as Vorhanden, and that things show up as Vorhanden when the circumstances are unusual in particular ways. Although this can happen, in the usual case they show up in other ways - as Zuhanden in some cases, but in other ways (e.g. as cries of pain) in other cases...

John Protevi

Hi Mandel, thanks for your comment. Ratcliffe does in the end take the extreme position that we *never* use folk-psychological inferences. Dan Hutto calls him on this extreme position in his review in NDPR: http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=11563. More precisely, Hutto shows how Ratcliffe sometimes adopts a more moderate position, as you do, that FP is not very often or almost never used, but that it is sometimes, if rarely, used (e.g., by detectives, or at the poker table), but that he ends up with the extreme position. I usually take the moderate position that FP is rarely used, but still at work sometimes.

About Heidegger, I'd have to do some more work, but I suspect we could classify the odd cry of pain as a modality of Mitsein, rather than as Vorhanden or Zuhanden. So a scientist could treat a human body as Vorhanden (a point mass in space with such and such a vector) and a monstrous sadist could treat it as Zuhanden (as material to build a living wall with), but I think your example would be a Mitsein case.

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